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CONTINENTAL COMMISSIONS MEETING

ENCUENTRO COMISIONES CONTINENTALES

Preparation Process
CONTRIBUTIONS 1

APORTES 1
Hermitage, October 2016


ASIA

Topic 1: PROPOSAL BY THE GENERAL COUNCIL

Focus of the proposal:
The General Council wishes to present the General Chapter with a framework regarding the identity of the lay Marists who feel the call to live our charism in the midst of the world. This involves the recognition of such identity within some form of association, and must have an international character.
DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects:

    1. Do you think it is possible to speak of a lay Marist identity with common features describing the laity throughout the Institute, and to determine general guidelines for a formation process?

Would you agree to the following statement?



The Institute avoids any generalization when assuming the identity profile that lay Marists develop and, at the same time, it tries to determine the essential features lay people identify with at the international level and the common criteria of a formation itinerary.

Justify your answers using the following table.




We need a clear articulation of the “core” values and characteristics of being a Lay Marist regardless of any geographical background. At the same time there can could be characteristics only applicable to particular country or group according to the culture, creed and the needs of those places.

In Asia we need to find very open and inclusive approach knowing the diversity of cultures/ religions and traditions.






    1. How should we outline this lay identity framework in order to include all the expressions of our charism?

What do you make of the following statement?

We believe that the proposed itinerary, although it offers general guidelines, wants to become an institutional reference point for the laity who want to follow Jesus in the Marist way. This institutional reference should make room for the different expressions of our charism, besides fostering a proper adaptation to each Province or Region.

Try to explain your answer.




This adaptation to each Province or region should not deviate from the institutional reference in terms of “Core” identify / Charism but in translating them to the particular contexts.

This general guidelines should also ensure that though we articulate the distinctive trademark or core identity, we should also express in it openness to different Asian Context….





    1. The proposed lay Marist identity itinerary implies freedom and gradual options. The process should explicitly include and accompany these options, besides highlighting them through a community ceremony.

Is this last statement consistent with the following paragraph?

We believe the formation path experience will require attention to personal processes, offering different ways of committing to the charism that will stem from personal discernment. The proposed lay identity itinerary could eventually imply linking with an international lay association.

Justify your answer.




Formation path experience require not only a personal process but communal process as well…. Accepting, internalizing and living the Charism need first and foremost personal discernment but eventually a Community/ Group discernment to bring witness as a group.

Identity itinerary could eventually link with an international lay association- here we have to take into account the unique aspects and variation each local associations can bring into the international level and the vice versa.

Before the process of linking with international lay association, it is important to strengthen the role Provincial lay associations considering that respective provinces have different contexts.




    1. The proposal wishes to avoid individualism, partiality, vagueness and generalization. Implementing it means introducing new experiences, carrying on our reflection, following up the process, and investing.

How would you put into practice this last paragraph?

What do you make of the following conclusion?



Implementing this institutional proposal of lay Marist identity involves training people to animate and accompany the different processes at the provincial and international levels.

To carry out those processes the Institute may train key leaders in the assocaition to be the catalists of change among members.

Establish, train and support lay leaders to spearhead laity concerns in the institute. The institue should offer wider space for the exercise of lay leadership....

About the conclusion: each and every Admin Unit shoul be invited to make their own stratergic plan and put into practice what it says.



    1. What would you like to add in order to enrich the ongoing reflection regarding the global framework in view of our meeting at the Hermitage?


What we have begun at the Hermitage can be a “bed-rock” where we can build the future of Lay Marist involvement. What is remaining for us to initiate is the make-up of a very practical, contextualize and prophetic plan of action and time line to follow-up.

Reflections should be accompanied with drawing out concrete strategic plans on how to move forward. There are concerns that has to be looked into. How do we prepare lay leaders?




Topic 2: INITIAL AND ONGOING FORMATION PROCESSES FOR LAITY AND BROTHERS

Focus of the topic

Given that following Jesus in Mary’s way unifies both the identity of laity and brothers, there could be shared formation spaces in which we could enrich and support each other’s specific vocation.


DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects

  1. Would you agree with this recommendation of the International Formation Colloquium held at the Hermitage in 2015 regarding a joint vocations ministry? Why?

Vocations promotion or animation as a priority for the Institute, which implies organizing teams of brothers and laity with the shared responsibility of promoting all vocations, especially to Marist life.

Having joint approach in vocation ministry is a good idea but always keep in mind that though our final aim is the same but paths can be different. In some stages of formation there could be certain elements that has to be addressed and dealt differently.

Prepare lay leaders to be part of the formation team for the laity.





  1. Our institutional reflection is inviting us to promote joint experiences (formation, community, mission, discernment, accompaniment, etc.) as part of the vocational process for both vocations (Colloquium, first recommendation regarding joint formation). If we take into account this invitation, would the following proposals make sense? Justify your answers.

      • Ensure joint formation experiences for brothers and lay people during both the initial and ongoing stages of formation.




Yes… Ensuring joint formation process is very vital but be aware of the paths that can be unique and different for both parties.

Form a team on the international or provincial structure who will work full time for the concerns of laity formation




      • Agree on the formation topics (discernment, accompaniment, community, spirituality, charism, mission, etc.) that brothers and lay people could share.


At this level we can learn from our learned lessons and experiences from “Mission Ad Gentes Asia” and lay-brothers experiences/experimentations across the Marist World in the past t could be very useful.



      • Training lay formators to accompany the formation processes.


This is a must….in the process there can be stages where they should have international exposure as well as local level formation.



Topic 3: BONDING - BELONGING - ASSOCIATION

Focus of the topic

Bonding and belonging through a lay association help us feel connected to each other by joining forces, walking together, and becoming a point of reference for a global Marist project. In addition, it empowers lay identity, and offers higher possibilities of living a horizontal relationship with the brothers, allowing us to overcome dependence and grow in communion. What forms of bonding and association should be available for lay Marists?


DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects

  1. Do you think we need to offer an association structure to the lay people who wish to live and promote the Marist charism by speaking with a single voice, leading international processes, and giving continuity to Champagnat’s intuitions “in every diocese or the world”?

Whether it is yes or no, please explain the reasons for your answer.


Living and promoting the Charism is a must for any Marist. However, the way to live and to promote has two components; there must be aspects which are universal, single and common, at the same time there can be aspects which are unique, different and evolving.

Keep in mind that the “Charism” is the gift of the Holy Spirit which is freely moving, Ever-changing, a gift to all and no one has power to manipulate and control…




  1. If you answer to the previous question is yes, please define your choice regarding the following options and explain why:

Note: we suggest that you look at the LEXICON in www.champagnat.org to get a clear understanding of the different concepts (association, bonding, belonging, etc.).

    1. Association structure only for the laity or association structure for brothers and laity.


Association structure for laity and brothers could be more appropriate with lots of openness and flexibility to adjust, learn and adopt at least at the initial level.



    1. Canonical structure, civil law structure or canonical and civil law structure.


***




    1. Canonical structure: public association of the faithful or private association of the faithful.


***




    1. Another type of association structure.







  1. Belonging means becoming part of an institution, and bonding, assuming obligations with the institution.

What would choosing some kind of bonding and belonging involve for the life of a lay person? How would the lay person and the institution (either autonomous of together with the brothers) commit to each other through this link?

For the life of the lay person, bonding and belonging expectations of their specific role has to be clearly defined... The tension might arise in reference to the lay person’s roles in the family.



  1. What do you make of the following statement coming from one of our international meetings? Please explain your answer.

Developing a system of lay association with the charism/institution, and at the same time developing another association system to manage our works, articulating both structures so that they complement and strengthen each other without confusion.


The system of association should be seen as a means to nourish, revitalize, and enrich the life of the laity and not as a an added burden in the day to day life of the laity.


EUROPA

Reflexión sobre Marco Global y aportaciones de nuestro equipo europeo.

Este Marco Global se estudiará en el encuentro de octubre, con las aportaciones de todas las comisiones continentales y algunas otras personas invitadas. De ese encuentro, saldrá una propuesta al Capítulo General.



Estas son nuestras aportaciones como equipo europeo.
CONTENIDO 1: PROPUESTA DEL CONSEJO GENERAL (SE REFIERE AL CONJUNTO)


  1. ¿Crees que es posible hablar de identidad laical marista, con rasgos comunes, aplicables a los laicos y laicas del Instituto, y determinar unas líneas generales de proceso formativo? ¿Estaría de acuerdo en esta afirmación?: “La identidad laical marista adquiere un perfil asumido por el Instituto que busca no banalizar la expresión, sino determinar los rasgos esenciales de identificación marista laical a nivel internacional y los criterios comunes de un itinerario formativo”.

    1. Que se diferencia bien lo que es vocación laical marista de una identidad en sentido amplio, con algunos rasgos maristas.

    2. Referencia fundamental a “En torno a la misma mesa”.

    3. Horizonte común y rasgos comunes.

    4. Hay consenso




  1. ¿De qué forma tiene que perfilarse el Marco de referencia para la identidad laical, de manera que todas las diversas expresiones del carisma puedan integrarse en él? ¿Cómo dar sentido a esta expresión?: “Creemos que el itinerario propuesto, aun conteniendo orientaciones generales, quiere significar la referencia institucional para el laico/a que quiere seguir a Jesús con el estilo marista. Esta referencia institucional tiene que dar posibilidades de integrar expresiones diversas del carisma, además de suponer una debida traducción en cada provincia o región”.

    1. Escucha para atender a la diversidad y respetar la autonomía personal.

    2. Subrayamos la referencia instituto y la adecuación a cada provincia.

    3. Integrador, internacional e inclusivo. Proceso participativo en la elaboración. Atender a la diversidad.

    4. Compaginar lo institucional o internacional y lo particular (traducción)

    5. Hay consenso




  1. La Propuesta de itinerario para la identidad marista laical está basada en un camino de libertad y de opciones sucesivas. Estas diversas opciones debieran aparecer en el proceso, señaladas con algún gesto comunitario, además de ser acompañadas. Desde lo anterior, ¿tiene sentido esta afirmación?: “Entendemos que la experiencia del camino formativo pedirá una atención a los procesos personales, donde se ofrezcan diversas opciones de compromiso con el carisma, nacidas del discernimiento personal. Para algunos, el camino propuesto de identidad laical, puede terminar en una expresión asociativa, como grupo internacional”.

    1. Pedagogía de la celebración, los gestos… en diferentes momentos, como puede ser cambio de etapa.

    2. Cada persona da sus pasos a nivel personal, aunque sea en un ámbito celebrativo comunitario.

    3. Grupo internacional: que sea asociación vocacional

    4. Integrar lo experiencial en la formación: conjunto de experiencias… desarrollo personal.

    5. Acompañar los procesos locales.

    6. Hay consenso




  1. La Propuesta quiere superar lo individual, lo parcial, lo indeterminado, lo genérico. Hacerla vida está pidiendo introducir experiencias, continuar la reflexión, acompañar los procesos, invertir. ¿Qué propuestas haría para responder a lo anterior? ¿Cómo valoras esta conclusión?: “La puesta en marcha de la Propuesta institucional para la identidad del marista laico está exigiendo capacitar a personas para la animación y acompañamiento de los procesos, tanto a nivel provincial como a nivel internacional”.

    1. Sugerir que sea a nivel regional. También en acompañamiento de personas y grupos.

    2. Apuesta clara del consejo general y los consejos provinciales por esta formación: un equipo en cada provincia y liberación de personas.

    3. Aprovechar los formadores que tenemos para diseñar el proceso. Las fortalezas que cada uno tenga.

    4. Que no se mate la iniciativa local. Que se cuente con la experiencia que ya existen

    5. Hay consenso




  1. ¿Qué le gustaría añadir como aporte a la reflexión del Marco global para nuestro encuentro en el Hermitage?

    1. Potenciar el estudio de “En torno a la misma mesa”



CONTENIDO 3: VINCULACIÓN – PERTENENCIA – ASOCIACIÓN


  1. ¿Crees necesaria una estructura asociativa para ofrecer a laicos/as que deseen vivir y promover el carisma marista con una voz común, liderando procesos a nivel internacional y dando continuidad a las intuiciones de Champagnat en “todas las diócesis del mundo”?

    1. Tendría ventaja de internacionalidad. La figura asociativa debe ser referente del carisma marista. Sería complicado en el momento actual. Que los laicos tengan palabra en el proceso.

    2. No se ve como prioritario en este momento. Se entiende que la propuesta surge de una necesidad en otros lugares.

    3. No se ve la necesidad de crear una estructura en este momento.

    4. Se ve para que el laico pueda mostrar su propio rostro y que recoja diferentes realidades. Se ve apropiado el apoyo de los hermanos en este momento.

    5. No hay consenso.



  1. Propuestas de distintos escenarios de asociación: No hay consenso.




  1. Tipo de vinculación

    1. Se ve bien, aunque no se sepa cuál será la institución.

    2. Necesario como reconocimiento a las personas que van dando pasos.




  1. ¿Cómo te sitúas frente a esta afirmación que surge de uno de nuestros encuentros internacionales?: “Desarrollar un sistema de asociación laical al carisma/institución y de forma paralela un sistema asociativo de gestión de las obras; y articular ambas para que se potencien mutuamente y se complementen sin confundirse”.

    1. IB: Ir en paralelo (que no sea la misma), pero interralacionadas.

    2. LH: dos que trabajen muy coordinadas

    3. ECO: Una misma asociación con diferentes ramas

    4. Comp: Una misma asociación que comparte misión.

    5. No hay consenso.



Contenido 2: PROCESOS DE FORMACIÓN INICIAL Y PERMANENTE PARA LAICOS Y HERMANOS


  • Mediterránea plantea que el marco debería ser abierto para la vocación de maristas de Champagnat (y no para laicos, como se plantea ahora). Así, la formación debería ser común como proceso personal de discernimiento hasta que las personas optan por el camino específico laical o religioso.

  • Hay acuerdos en la pastoral vocacional conjunta y en momentos de formación conjunta, tanto en la formación inicial como en la formación permanente.

  • Hay acuerdo en consensuar programas de formación.

  • Sobre los formadores laicos, se insiste en que hay que potenciarlos, pero se subraya que ayuden al discernimiento de las personas (tanto laicos como hermanos).



AFRICA
Topic 1: PROPOSAL BY THE GENERAL COUNCIL

Focus of the proposal:

The General Council wishes to present the General Chapter with a framework regarding the identity of the lay Marists who feel the call to live our charism in the midst of the world. This involves the recognition of such identity within some form of association, and must have an international character.


DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects:

    1. Do you think it is possible to speak of a lay Marist identity with common features describing the laity throughout the Institute, and to determine general guidelines for a formation process?

Would you agree to the following statement?



The Institute avoids any generalization when assuming the identity profile that lay Marists develop and, at the same time, it tries to determine the essential features lay people identify with at the international level and the common criteria of a formation itinerary.

Justify your answers using the following table.



Yes

Common Vision and Features: Prayer, values, characteristics. Then specific features as per community / country eg. Different cultures, socio economic.

Seek to unite, not divide


    1. How should we outline this lay identity framework in order to include all the expressions of our charism?

What do you make of the following statement?

We believe that the proposed itinerary, although it offers general guidelines, wants to become an institutional reference point for the laity who want to follow Jesus in the Marist way. This institutional reference should make room for the different expressions of our charism, besides fostering a proper adaptation to each Province or Region.

Try to explain your answer.



We agree with the statement

By trying to live the 5 characteristics & 3 values with the help & guidance of the Brothers. Starting an individual level – group level – community – (school, social) – national - international

The beauty of it is that our core remains solid but allow local, regional, provincial interpretations to make it relevant.

    1. The proposed lay Marist identity itinerary implies freedom and gradual options. The process should explicitly include and accompany these options, besides highlighting them through a community ceremony.

Is this last statement consistent with the following paragraph?

We believe the formation path experience will require attention to personal processes, offering different ways of committing to the charism that will stem from personal discernment. The proposed lay identity itinerary could eventually imply linking with an international lay association.

Justify your answer.



Yes

The approach must allow individuals and groups to progress at their own speed and in their on way. A community ceremony will indicate and confirm intention and commitment.

We agreed and felt the formation process should allow for diversity / involvement within a framework. We also felt this should allow people to join at their own level that they were comfortable with.

It is important that the different Marist Laity groups form links within the international Marist world to help Laity groups feel as though they are part of a global community.


    1. The proposal wishes to avoid individualism, partiality, vagueness and generalization. Implementing it means introducing new experiences, carrying on our reflection, following up the process, and investing.

How would you put into practice this last paragraph?

What do you make of the following conclusion?



Implementing this institutional proposal of lay Marist identity involves training people to animate and accompany the different processes at the provincial and international levels.

This is important – our processes and practises must accomodate local demands and norms while describing and supporting our core charism. Marist in action is what it reads.

Though commitment to live Marist Identity is a personal choice, living it is at provincial and international levels. We live Marist Identity as an institution not as a person. Therefore the sense of belonging is important and formation should lead to that.

Training people is very important to ensure that we are all starting at the same point and to help ensure that individual laity groups do not lose their way.


    1. What would you like to add in order to enrich the ongoing reflection regarding the global framework in view of our meeting at the Hermitage?

We must share experiences, successes, and disappointments, to help other along the journey.

If it’s possible it’s good to invite each one of members to share their own experiences from their country about the lay Marist vocation and their activities

Brothers should change mentality to welcome Lay Marist vocation.

Topic 2: INITIAL AND ONGOING FORMATION PROCESSES FOR LAITY AND BROTHERS

Focus of the topic

Given that following Jesus in Mary’s way unifies both the identity of laity and brothers, there could be shared formation spaces in which we could enrich and support each other’s specific vocation.


DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects

  1. Would you agree with this recommendation of the International Formation Colloquium held at the Hermitage in 2015 regarding a joint vocations ministry? Why?

Vocations promotion or animation as a priority for the Institute, which implies organizing teams of brothers and laity with the shared responsibility of promoting all vocations, especially to Marist life.

Yes, agreed.

We as Laity have much to learn from and absorb from the Brothers. At the same time we can give and add so much from our own experiences. We must share a necessary responsibility to avoid failure and promote all vocations to /marist life.

The shared identity of the Laity and the Brothers is following Jesus as Mary did. This forms the solid base of the relation between the Brothers and the Laity.


  1. Our institutional reflection is inviting us to promote joint experiences (formation, community, mission, discernment, accompaniment, etc.) as part of the vocational process for both vocations (Colloquium, first recommendation regarding joint formation). If we take into account this invitation, would the following proposals make sense? Justify your answers.

      • Ensure joint formation experiences for brothers and lay people during both the initial and ongoing stages of formation.

Yes, it makes absolute sense. We supported the idea of joint formation, while still respecting that the different groups may be approaching the formation from different perspectives or with different expectations. This is a journey. We need to be together and to share at the start and at every step along the way.


      • Agree on the formation topics (discernment, accompaniment, community, spirituality, charism, mission, etc.) that brothers and lay people could share.

Yes, all are essential . We must put them in simple terms and relate them to real life and exisiting situations. We must also accept that more topics will emerge as we progress and that people; individuals & groups, will be at different places and points of progress.

Discernment = part of a regular Christian life

Accompaniment + community = we definitely need more support.

Spirituality / charism / mission = you have to love children before teaching - carrying on Marcellin’s charism.


      • Training lay formators to accompany the formation processes.

Lay formators require guidance in process as well as concept; techniques and content. They will require ongoing support, as well as motivated by well-informed facilitators initially headed up by a brother. This is very important as more people would be reached in this way.


Topic 3: BONDING - BELONGING - ASSOCIATION

Focus of the topic

Bonding and belonging through a lay association help us feel connected to each other by joining forces, walking together, and becoming a point of reference for a global Marist project. In addition, it empowers lay identity, and offers higher possibilities of living a horizontal relationship with the brothers, allowing us to overcome dependence and grow in communion. What forms of bonding and association should be available for lay Marists?


DISCERNMENT INPUT

Aspects

  1. Do you think we need to offer an association structure to the lay people who wish to live and promote the Marist charism by speaking with a single voice, leading international processes, and giving continuity to Champagnat’s intuitions “in every diocese or the world”?

Whether it is yes or no, please explain the reasons for your answer.

Yes

Lay Marists who reach this level of communion and community often desire an outward expression and marking of this commitment. It provides the sense of belonging and identity that captures the spirit of our identity. Needs structure / framework to ensure intergration of Marist values. It is important to have an association structure to ensure we are all following the same directives and the association can help to promote shared practices and communication between the different regions


  1. If you answer to the previous question is yes, please define your choice regarding the following options and explain why:

Note: we suggest that you look at the LEXICON in www.champagnat.org to get a clear understanding of the different concepts (association, bonding, belonging, etc.).

    1. Association structure only for the laity or association structure for brothers and laity.


A voluntary association structure for Brothers and Laity would enable the emergence of our new beginning, guided centrally but living locally. It could still respect the “old”.

Br Ernest: Only association structure because they don’t do the three vows as the brothers live in Marist congregation


    1. Canonical structure, civil law structure or canonical and civil law structure.
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